YOUR PROGRESS IN THIS COURSE:
Here are our sends with no motion . Thanks.
@agilitymalinois thanks for fixing the video link! I think in this video, similar to the other one I just commented on, you could stay facing your dog a bit longer as she wraps the cone. The one at 0:11s is actually a nice demonstration of this. The next few after this are great as well. You never want to rotate forward out of a front cross too early anyway, or the dog might think it’s a blind cross because you’ve released the pressure you put on the dog’s line when you were facing them 🙂 Your editing is really nice… Read more »
I do have questions about this. I do notice that in general the farther away I get, the looser her circle around the cone. I suppose this is natural as she has more speed and would need to decel more when she hits the cone to wrap tighter. Should I not allow this loosening to occur? Or is it natural and I shouldn’t worry about it? We have no handler motion at this point she she is not really digging in super hard but I imagine adding handler motion will certainly add speed but will not make her wrap tighter.… Read more »
That’s a great observation, and while it does usually happen that way – the further from the jump you are the less effective you’ll be at cuing a really tight turn – you CAN counteract that with placement of reinforcement. Try to deliver your reinforcement as close to or ON the base of the cone as you can, even from a distance, and that will help. But certainly, typically, in ‘real life’, the further you are from a jump, without really specifically reinforcing for ONLY tight turns, they’ll get looser.
Oops It was accidentally marked private. Please try again. You will see she isn’t really loosening in her circle as I mentioned above in these videos but in practice I could observe it as I moved out further. And it not due to her not caring, it is really due her desire to get back to me as quickly as possible. I am being careful to jackpot tight turns and will think about placement of rewards as we move forward. Thanks!
@agilitymalinois commented on the other video that you fixed 🙂 I do think that going wide is related to how quickly you turn your shoulders forward, too – if you remain facing her a bit more even as you step out of the cross, you’ll find that she stays tighter longer, because you’re putting more pressure on her line. If you flip forward too soon, she’ll flip out wide OR think you’re doing a blind cross 🙂
That’s really interesting, thank you! In my mind turning more quickly would make her wrap tighter because the new line is presented. And I thought it was a step toward obstacle focus. I would think facing her would slow her down. So time to experiment! I will head outside later today and try it both ways.
Keep me posted!
Here is our video:
He knows to anticipate the turn so her is actually going a little wide on the approach, I assume this is ok since he’s finding his line and it’s not ridiculously wide, but would love to hear your thoughts on it
@Stefanie While it’s fine for dogs to shape their own approach to a jump, most WON’T, so no, I don’t want the dog going wide on approach to the cone. When they do this, they’re avoiding the bending aspect that the cone is supposed to be helping to teach them to get more comfortable with. There should be no motion for this one, in any case; make sure you add motion in gradually enough that the dog’s straight line to the cone is maintained. But for THIS one, there should be no motion and a gradual increase in distance only… Read more »
Unfortunately we were limited to my basement for these. I leave on Sunday for 9 days so I’m really trying to wrap up this course before I go. It’s getting cold here in Chicago and with it getting dark earlier I had no time to practice outside:(
@Alisa Healy In general these look good. You can bring your outside up a little bit sooner for the FC, and, don’t be too quick to flip facing forward. Make it look a little bit more like a collection recall as the dog is coming around the wing, where you’re facing them a bit as you’re reaching for them. If you flip facing forward too soon you won’t maintain as much pressure on the dog’s path as they come around the wing and you won’t encourage bending quite the same. They may also mistake your front for a blind when… Read more »
Okay, makes sense! I think I have “complete the cross as quickly as possible” drilled into my brain lol. When I first started agility I would almost stop and watch my dog halfway through the cross so it feels funny to do that now haha! I want to try these again using your suggestions when I get home. Is Level 2 up for purchase now?
Level 2 should be available for purchase – if you go to the course sales page you should see a button for it 🙂 It *is* odd that in ALL the literature I read about practice (and I read a LOT), going SLOW is the way to go. Working methodically, and getting the movements down right SLOW first, and THEN working up to speed 🙂 Then, when you take a look at agility, we’re all trying to go fast fast fast right off the bat. It’s one thing if you’re working on drive and motivation (which we all should be… Read more »
Talk about going slow…I finally was able to finish the last 2 units with Ruby! I think these look better than my first attempt and i was able to use a bigger space.
Daisy, this one still needs feedback.
Oh I’m glad you tagged me I’d been looking for the one you were talking about! I would be marking the MOMENT it’s clear she’s going to commit to wrapping the wing; as soon as her nose breaks the plane of it you can praise and then keep praising as she makes her way back to you. you’ll get more enthusiasm for that wrap, I promise! She looks great – I don’t think she’s slow, maybe just uncertain. So the timing of the praise will make a huge difference here 🙂
We’re skipping the 90 Degree Turns right now because I’m not understanding the body language.
So, onto something more fun.
Here’s our send around a cone.
@Patty O'Bleness You’re already building in some good distance, this looks great! As you get more and more distance, if you face her a little bit longer before finishing the front cross, you’ll be able to continue to encourage a nice wrap around the wing. If you finish the front and flip to facing forward too quickly, the dogs will tend to go a bit wider 🙂
This feel like the same exercise we did, but here is our send around a cone with some good distance.
@Patty O'Bleness Make sure you reach for her with your (new) inside arm to continue to encourage a nice bend/wrap around the cone. Otherwise, as she gains enthusiasm, she’s going to start swinging wider and wider around the cone, and you won’t be practicing/rewarding the mechanics that you want to be rewarding 🙂 She’s definitely developing good commitment from a distance, which is great! I like how you’re changing your location as well, keeping things on the move even though there’s not much real motion 🙂
Ha ha! Maybe that’s because we did the same one twice!
daisy peel Here is my send around cone with no motion video. Please let me know if I need to work these more before moving on and adding motion. As you an see he doesn’t really need my motion for his inspiration to move 😯 I did a few further out (out of the camera’s field) I think he could use more practice on those about 20 feet out – I needed to hold my arm out until he got to the cone or he would turn back. I think perhaps my dropping my arm may have caused him to… Read more »