We worked on the Push. It felt awkward.
I know you’re busy this weekend Daisy, so don’t worry about feedback. I will work on it some more.
LOL, if it DOESN’T feel awkward you’re almost certainly not doing it right. I had to get on the phone with Linda several years ago and hash it out. It’s WEIRD, for sure. But the footwork you employ is important! It may be helpful to do this around a cone, or a wing, to encourage bending. It may ALSO be helpful to envision where you might do this on course (and you will, occasionally, such as, a turn away from the end of a stopped contact to a tunnel, or a push at the end of the weave poles, or… Read more »
Not sure if this is right, maybe I’m rushing it a bit ?♀️
The push on the flat is a weird one 🙂 It’s awkward as all get out, at least for me!! But, I think you’ve got it here, and your dog is bending quite nicely 🙂 Awkward footwork and all!! You’re stepping with the correct (outside) leg, your cookie is nice and low, and the dog is bending and not just pivoting. 😉
Oh boy, this is really ugly. Particularly with the dog on my right. Oh my. I feel like she’s moving into position by swinging her rear instead of bending? Plus she’s a long tall dog and I’m short so everything is more compressed, lol!
@agilitymalinois Don’t worry, if it’s not weird, it’s not being done right, LOL. First one is good, second one, pivoting. Third one, pivoting. Fourth one, bigger step from you, better from her. This is going to be super awkward but you REALLY need to get that outside leg swung around in front of her, not just in front of you. That will get your hips turning in to her and she’ll bend better. Bigger steps in front of her = better bending on her part. Smaller steps and she’s just pivoting in heel position. If you’ve WORKED on pivoting in… Read more »
I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but I’m doing it wrong. I tried bigger steps, I tried smaller steps.
I tried to leave only the best reps in, but there was a LOT of him sitting and just bending his neck to the new position, or offering spin/twist instead. Help!!!
The push IS awkward 🙂 You may not be doing ANYthing wrong! You may find he’s better on one side than the other, and you may also find that some more heelwork will help. You also need to make sure he’s not already in front of you when you start – make sure his nose is just behind the middle of your inside leg. If he comes forward of that point, you won’t be able to push on him. So – imagine you’re wearing jeans. There’s a seam in the pants. Keep his nose at or behind that seam, and… Read more »
Ok, here’s our second attempt (first is above- not sure you saw it).
@Shelby I did comment on the first attempts. Moss is still doing a lot of pivoting and not so much bending. Part of it looks like he is a bit uncomfortable with you stepping in to him, part of it is that it’s so awkward for the handler (you, and everybody else, LOL). So, let’s help him a bit – do this around the outside of a crate, or a corner in your house, or a big flower pot or something similar…
Ok, sorry, I didn’t know if you’d seen the video or were just commenting on my comments 🙂 here’s yet another attempt. Unfortunately we did some pushes on the beach yesterday that morning that were not SO awkward, but did I think to video it, of course not… it did seem to be better when I was not luring so much, and just taking a step or two and rewarding. Yes, I know, I am going too fast in the beginning. I didn’t realize it at first; you’ll see me slow down. I felt like I had to be fast… Read more »
@Shelby I think this is the video I missed before you came for your lesson 🙂 I know we sorted it out at that time but for the record, and for others, make sure when you’re pushing around a wing, you still follow the rule that your outside foot is leading, and you never step forward of your outside foot with your inside foot. That inside leg only ever catches up even to the outside foot. This way, your hips stay turned toward the dog, encouraging bending rather than pivoting 🙂
Here’s our second stab at push/pull. Again, sorry to break the rules and submit several videos on different topics. I’m going out of the country shortly, and I worry that if I wait until I come back and submit one at a time, we’ll never make it through this in time to start the second course. I do the push/pull together because that makes sense to me. Unlike the front/rear cross, I felt more comfortable with these, though I think for the push she’s doing pivoting into heel. Given her size, I’m not sure how much of concern that it.… Read more »
@Wendie"Schneider" don’t worry, that second course will be here when you need it! The pull you’re demonstrating is the pull with lateral motion and is just a 90-degree turn. Make sure you’re also doing the pull with NO lateral motion, which is a 180-degree turn. Both are important but the 180 degree turn is more important for the mechanics of bending. With the push, when you step in front of her with your outside leg, she’s bending just fine. But if you don’t step across the front of her adequately, she IS pivoting, as you say. I do think it’s… Read more »
Oh boy, these were weird! At some points my body was actually pushing my dog out as I think they maybe have been too focused on the treats to notice my leg. Happy to do these again if needed. The ones in the video were after a few practice rounds. I filmed all of them and could see my darn hand was way in front of me again. But I managed to correct it moving forward and I think these look okay, at least in terms of hand placement.
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@Alisa Healy They’re SO weird. 🙂 But, that’s how it goes. If it’s awkward you’re probably doing it right. In your video…Moses to the right, first up. He’s bending nicely but his back feet don’t ever move! I think just because he’s pretty long. So you may have to take a couple of steps. Even so, he’s clearly bending nicely. Moses to the left, that’s actually a bit better, I’m guessing primarily because you can step better that way? Ruby right, heh heh, that first one was kind of funny, I thought you might fall over and Ruby was like… Read more »
Yes, I did lose my balance haha! I found myself stepping on their toes and then trying to shift my weight off them without falling lol!#bigdogproblems I will practice taking better steps.
@Alisa Healy I don’t think you need to go overboard with it – they ARE bending, pretty nicely, really. No need to obsess on this step 😉
Here is my push video. As everyone else has said it feels very awkward. I didn’t think I was getting much bending. So I tried having something for him to bend around. looking forward to what you think….
@ Daisy Peel Hi Daisy I don’t want to be rude or pushy 🙁 but I’m wondering if you’re not seeing these videos because I’m so far behind everyone else and they slip through the cracks? Anyway I hope it’s alright to go on ahead while I’m waiting on your response.
@Sandy Mullis You’re not being pushy and absolutely bump and bump again! I’m at the US Open so this may have slipped through the cracks 🙂 Yes, you’re alright to go on without waiting for a response, that’s no problem. Ok, on this video. yes, it’s totally awkward and for me at least it never really gets better. The goal is to really step across yourself AND in front of the dog with your outside leg. This turns your hips toward the dog and encourages bending more. You’re right, there’s not much bending going on here. I’d do this around… Read more »
I will continue to work on this. I’ll video (but not submit) so I can see if there’s any bending going on and try some different things. Thanks for your input.
@Sandy Mullis Ok and don’t hesitate to ask questions!
Here is a video of Zipper and I doing a PUSH lesson.
@Sasha Hey there Sasha and Zipper! It’s awkward, but it looks pretty good! You’re doing a nice job stepping in to Zipper, and really getting a bend around an imaginary corner. Zipper is bending nicely, rather than pivoting. Approved! 🙂