Here is Trooper working on his back-ups. https://vimeo.com/288439217/62f16f2884. We had a mix of hand signals, body cues and shaping methods.
This is a great start but we have a few things to change. We need to have you stop moving into him as he will not be thinking about backing up. Try to do it the way that it was explained in the notes and the video. Hold a handful of cooking and see is he will start offering and motion backwards. We just need to get him thinking about OFFERING the behavior. Also, no reason to have the target there we will work on rear foot targeting throughout the class 🙂 right now it is most important to teach… Read more »
Alright – that will be my next goal – stop moving into him :). He did offer this behavior before, but I had a problem with that.. Each time I held cookies in my hands, he backs up all the time. And I don’t want him doing that. How do we create the balance?
Once you get the behavior, you can add a verbal to it and only reward when giving the verbal 😉 That should solve the problem.
Here’s Trooper’s progress on backing up without hand cues.
WAY BETTER! You are still leaning in a little bit, so just be aware of that. Make sure to toss the reward to him as he gets farther and farther away so that the reward is where he is at that distance. It will make adding the distance easier. Also rewards the faster beginning steps more often. Those are more like what we want even at the distance so he needs more reinforcement for doing it that way.
Ok!! I was wondering how to reward him. Tossing treat is a great idea. I just was afraid of him losing his position.
Nahhh, the position doesnt matter too much. He can always back up more from where ever he is
i’m just auditing, but I was wondering if we should be looking for a certain number of steps before we add a cue? We are getting 3-4 steps pretty consistently.
I would probably wait a bit longer (more like 6 steps that are fast)
Here is Judge’s back up “beep, beep”
AWESOME! Make sure you mark and reward whike he is still in motion. I would try this somewhere else where he has more room to back up and try using a toy reward thrown to him .
This is a behavior my dog has always struggled with, so we’re taking our sweet time shaping it. While we work, should I move on to the next section as well, since the course progresses pretty quickly?
Yes, you can move on to new sections as you like. Some of the tricks are pre reqs for other ones so those ones you will need to complete or the one before. But other than that jump around as you please 🙂
Great, thank you! She’s got two steps back now, but she still seems confused!
Okay here is our back up. Question 1: her back up is not a continuous back up until I stop. Should I reshape this? Question 2: She doesn’t go back in a straight line perfectly. Should I put gates up or something?
My suggestion would be to reshape this behavior. I think it would be a good thing for her to think about anyways. So, in general, as we are moving onto =other tricks we can encourage her to think a bit more. Kind of like you are trying to set a different tone for shaping rather than this wild lady shaping. Does that make sense? So yes, lets reshape this behavior and work on clicking for individual foot steps backwards. Getting a bit more deliberate behavior from her. To me, it really doesn’t matter if she back up in a straight… Read more »
Here is a session of Lulu backing up on verbal cue. I also mixed it up with sits and downs. Toward the end of the session I backed her up and then asked for a controlled position and then asked her to back up again. She was a little confused so I added my back up hand signal to help her.
The backing up here looks great!! I like that you are adding in some other behaviors as well. That is good for her to keep practicing her listening skills 😉 She is very controlled with her backing up, thats very good! I would try this with a toy and see if you can get the same thoughfulness. Same thing, asking for different behaviors, making sure she is always waiting for the verbals. The other thing I would do is work on adding more distance as well. Tossing the toy to her as she is building up more distance.
Here is our second session of backing up, this time with a toy reward. I also tried to get her to go even further away from me.
YAY! Her first few steps are always really fast and very good. I would reward those often. Many times you are also marking the behavior when she is stopped, do the best you can to mark when she is still in motion and then get the toy to her quickly. Otherwise that is looking great! Don’t forget to add in some other verbals at some point so that we can keep testing her verbal skills