Hi Daisy, here is our Rear Cross on a Jump.
Dizzy seemed to be fine with this, but to me the deceleration on the approach to #2 felt quite strange and I wasn’t really able to time it well.
Thank you for commenting.
@Sabine Consider what would happen if you DIDN’T decelerate when your dog was considering how to take 2? If you don’t decelerate, your dog will land long at 2, and that’s what you’d do if you were, say, pushing your dog to the backside of 3 the long way, right? Think it through and you’ll know what I mean. If you decelerate as your dog is deciding how to take 2, then you’ll cue a slight turn toward 3, and THEN you can push on your dog’s line to cue the rear cross for three 🙂 Trial 1 – your… Read more »
Thank you @Daisy Peel for your detailed and excellent feedback on this one! Your comparison with rear-crossing vs. pushing to the far backside of #3 really clarified a lot, also in terms of right timing of the rear cross. I’m still desperately late with cueing especially when concentrated so much about a not so familiar handling exercise.
You’re welcome – now if I can just get caught up with all the feedback that’s overdue!
Ok, I got very tired and did this last so ignore my flails and jump knocking over. I like the “rule” above regarding Fig 13a. I hadn’t thought much about it but this seems fair and easy to keep to.
@Shenna Lemche Yes that general rule of thumb helps maintain internal consistency, and if you are wanting to do international stuff that’s even MORE important – to have your dog ASSUME the gap 🙂 Trial 1 – I didn’t see any obvious deceleration as your dog was committing to 2 – you moved laterally a bit, but even that was a bit late 🙂 You’re relying more here on turning in to your dog and stopping at 3, and this isn’t quite what the figure calls for. A good rear cross requires some set up – consider the decel and… Read more »
Daisy, As I explained on the other video the ring was double booked and it’s wet and slippery outside. I’m videotaping in the basement to get more of these done for you to look at. This is the rear cross on a jump.
@CarlaBaker Remember that you need to do the rear cross on the takeoff side for this exercise. Your first attempt is Figure 13a, which is included as a contrast to figure 13, which *should* result in the dog NOT going on to the far jump. You *are* doing figure 13a quite nicely, though!! It’s actually not a bad idea to DO both rear crosses – now that you’ve done the rear cross on the flat AFTER the jump, do it on the takeoff BEFORE the jump and see how your dog reads THAT. And, submit the video 🙂 The basement… Read more »
I had the farm to work in today so redid the rear cross on a jump since I had more room. It only took a couple of times for my timing to get better and then Piper to be able to read what I was asking for. This comes up frequently in shows so a great skill to keep working on.
@CarlaBaker This is a rear cross on the flat, on the landing side of 3. It should be a rear cross on the TAKEOFF side of 3 🙂 It’s a decent rear cross on the flat after 3, but again, I want to see a rear cross on the takeoff side 🙂 You’ll need to make sure you decelerate as your dog is approaching 2, so that you don’t overshoot him on your path 🙂
Darcy read the rear cross well BUT if I took just one step as she was going over the jump, I got the off course jump. I have to remind myself to be patient and wait for her to turn back to me before moving again. So, I am having to go back to my basic understanding of Linda’s system and motion – lack of motion is also a cue. Doing these drills is really helping me break things down. If we can master each cue/behavior, it *should* enable us to be a better team when we put them all… Read more »
Yes, lack of motion IS a motion cue, for sure!! And yes, these drills are GREAT for breaking things down, I’m so happy that you’ve digested this stuff and you’re still working through it! The little stuff IS the important stuff 🙂
I don’t see figure 13A.
@DianeKrumme Hmm, what are you viewing this page on? It’s definitely there, right above the PDF link 🙂
windows 10, I will have to look on my ipad to see if I can see it
My ad blocker was blocking it
That is so odd! I’m glad you solved the issue though!!
So here is rear cross on the jump. Still struggling with not taking the off course jump. This is a little longer as I left some snippets of trying to break things down a bit without a lot of success. I tried calling to treat in hand and dropping a ball at the line I wanted him to take. We had been working for awhile at this point and he had lost some enthusiasm for the ball. I am a little frustrated with not being able to get him to turn and not take the off course jump with most… Read more »
Just wanted to make certain you saw this post as well?
@PamAnthony I did NOT, so I’m glad you bumped it. Sheesh, bad on me 🙁 The first RC was pretty good, he just went ahead to the off course jump, but in this case it’s not necessarily wrong for him to assume you want it. I did see at 0:45s he did it nicely, and after that as well! The trick here is to DEcelerate as the dog is landing jump 1 and committing to jump 2, and then after the dog has committed to the turn at 2 and is looking at 3, ACCelerate just a bit to push… Read more »
Hi Daisy, We weren’t sure that I had the two types of rear crosses done correctly so since they still aren’t solid in my mind, we re-recorded our efforts. See if this is a better rear cross on the jump. Carla
@CarlaBaker it seems I missed this during the last round of reviews!! I promise it was just a mistake and nothing personal!! 🙁 This is a rear cross on the flat AFTER the jump 🙂 A rear cross ‘on the jump’ would involve you: – decelerating as the dog approached number 3 – sending the dog forward to 3 as you step in behind them – changing sides to get the dog to turn to the left as they take 3 but with you still on the takeoff side of 3 (not the landing, as you demonstrate) For the record,… Read more »
Daisy, here is our video for the rear cross on a jump.
@Janie Peirce Nicely done! I think the third one is one of the better ones, because there’s obvious deceleration as the dog approaches 2, on your part. This one is hard to set up properly because it’s so easy to be ahead of the dog. In flow, you’d be moving at one speed as the dog commits to 1, then slow momentarily as she commits to 2 so she lands looking at 3, then back to your original speed to press on her line so she turns to her left as she commits to 3 and you’re moving behind her.… Read more »
Hi Daisy, here is Blu’s rear cross on jump.
@Jenni Young Ooh, this looks nice!! Well done! Do you think you could do the rear cross and NOT bring him through the gap, just to fiddle with it? This looks really nice, Jenni – I hope I get to see you guys in person when I’m down early next year 🙂
Thank you Daisy, do you mean send him to the other jump next to it? I didn’t know you were coming over until just recently you are not doing Sydney though, I think you are doing Melbourne?
I have to look, I think Melbourne, yes.
Carter ( Module 3,unit 2) Rear Cross on the Jump
@Merck Salazar This is a good rear cross! Are you saying right? It’s really a ‘left’ 🙂
Also, what is all that steam in the background?!
Hahaha. Yup, my verbal cue is wrong. I just change my old verbal cue and this sometimes creates confusion. That is why the learning that I got from this program is very valuable. SImple verbal cueing is of great effect. Now I know why you are using Dog’s name in cueing. Thank You, Daisy, to play 2019 with my pack.
For the steam in the background. It’s a dried ipil ipil leaves with the cut grass of my training field purposedly to move away the mosquito. I refrain from using a chemical spray.
That’s an interesting idea to keep the bugs away!